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re4martins
5/9/2008 8:00 AM
i say no to it
i dont want my kids watching it
its making church an evil threat in the movie and the church is not evil it satan and hisimps
it shows to me again that men is still trying to get rid of God
i am glad to say
that you cant get rid of God
HE IS LORD
those who have made this movie and the harry potter movie need to repent and ask God for forgiveness
they need to know the truth
God's word is truth
quit trying to decive our children with your lies through
movies.
God said"choose this day whom you will serve..
he also said "i set before you life and death,blessings and curses
He said CHOOSE LIFE
i dont want my kids watching it
its making church an evil threat in the movie and the church is not evil it satan and hisimps
it shows to me again that men is still trying to get rid of God
i am glad to say
that you cant get rid of God
HE IS LORD
those who have made this movie and the harry potter movie need to repent and ask God for forgiveness
they need to know the truth
God's word is truth
quit trying to decive our children with your lies through
movies.
God said"choose this day whom you will serve..
he also said "i set before you life and death,blessings and curses
He said CHOOSE LIFE
Sulli
12/13/2007 12:26 PM
Having been raised a Christian and having read the books that this movie was based on when I was very young (I was younger than Lyra when I finished "The Golden Compass") I can say truthfully that yes, His Dark Materials do raise a number of questions about the existence of God in a child's mind.
However, these elements have been white-washed clean out of the movie. I think a number of people have heard the press about the book series and the author, and are implanting this into what they see on the silver screen. The magistrium bore almost no resemblence to the Church - hey looked a great deal like Nazis to me. As for daemons and witches, how one interprets them is personal, and while I did not think of them as evil, others will interpret them how they like. But please let's be realistic - God was not mentioned a single time in this movie, and attacking a mediocre film version of a literary masterpiece is a little bit over the top.
God Bless and Keep,
Sulli
However, these elements have been white-washed clean out of the movie. I think a number of people have heard the press about the book series and the author, and are implanting this into what they see on the silver screen. The magistrium bore almost no resemblence to the Church - hey looked a great deal like Nazis to me. As for daemons and witches, how one interprets them is personal, and while I did not think of them as evil, others will interpret them how they like. But please let's be realistic - God was not mentioned a single time in this movie, and attacking a mediocre film version of a literary masterpiece is a little bit over the top.
God Bless and Keep,
Sulli
joyful247
12/12/2007 1:41 AM
"its just a movie".
Not quite. There is an absolute agenda behind the scenes of the makers of this film and this reviewers flippant comment will lead many of your trusting readers to view this film, most likely giving them the 'willies', while making money for those who seek to destroy Christianity.
Why would we put our hard earned money into their pockets?
Encouraging readers to use viewing this film with their kids as an opportunity for a good discussion would be like leading frogs into a pan of cool water, placing it on the stove with the flame turned low. Thinking all is well with the world until they are boiled alive!
It is time we, Christians, get a backbone, stand up and say.. enough is enough.
sbirch
12/10/2007 9:04 AM
--- continued
...As Pullman insists, Eve and Adam were right to eat the forbidden fruit and God was a tyrant to forbid them the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.
...Is there more to the larger story? Yes, and it has to do with sex. Surprisingly graphic and explicit sex.
...Pullman believes that the Christian church is horribly repressive about sex and that this is rooted in the idea of the Fall. As he told Hanna Rosin of the Atlantic Monthly, "Why the Christian Church has spent 2,000 years condemning this glorious moment, well, that's a mystery. I want to confront that, I suppose, by telling a story that the so-called original sin is anything but. It's the thing that makes us fully human."
...He wants to celebrate the adolescent's arrival at sexual awareness.
storm, you should be concerned. educate yourself:
http://www.albertmohler.com/blog_read.php?id=1065
Simon
...As Pullman insists, Eve and Adam were right to eat the forbidden fruit and God was a tyrant to forbid them the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.
...Is there more to the larger story? Yes, and it has to do with sex. Surprisingly graphic and explicit sex.
...Pullman believes that the Christian church is horribly repressive about sex and that this is rooted in the idea of the Fall. As he told Hanna Rosin of the Atlantic Monthly, "Why the Christian Church has spent 2,000 years condemning this glorious moment, well, that's a mystery. I want to confront that, I suppose, by telling a story that the so-called original sin is anything but. It's the thing that makes us fully human."
...He wants to celebrate the adolescent's arrival at sexual awareness.
storm, you should be concerned. educate yourself:
http://www.albertmohler.com/blog_read.php?id=1065
Simon
sbirch
12/10/2007 9:03 AM
storm -
did you read the article? there's a lot to make a "fuss" about. you even say it yourself that it's got a "spiritual" component to it. here's why you should be concerned:
This is not just any fantasy trilogy or film project. Philip Pullman has an agenda -- an agenda about as subtle as an army tank. His agenda is nothing less than to expose what he believes is the tyranny of the Christian faith and the Christian church. His hatred of the biblical storyline is clear. He is an atheist whose most important literary project is intended to offer a moral narrative that will reverse the biblical account of the fall and provide a liberating mythology for a new secular age.
...He told an Australian newspaper that what he is "saying things that are far more subversive than anything poor old Harry [Potter] has said. My books are about killing God."
-- more
did you read the article? there's a lot to make a "fuss" about. you even say it yourself that it's got a "spiritual" component to it. here's why you should be concerned:
This is not just any fantasy trilogy or film project. Philip Pullman has an agenda -- an agenda about as subtle as an army tank. His agenda is nothing less than to expose what he believes is the tyranny of the Christian faith and the Christian church. His hatred of the biblical storyline is clear. He is an atheist whose most important literary project is intended to offer a moral narrative that will reverse the biblical account of the fall and provide a liberating mythology for a new secular age.
...He told an Australian newspaper that what he is "saying things that are far more subversive than anything poor old Harry [Potter] has said. My books are about killing God."
-- more
Stormblazer
12/9/2007 10:02 PM
I don't understand what the fuss is.
When you read the books, you'll quickly realize that the church and the god presented in the story are very unlike that of reality.
The "Authority" in the books is an oppressive, flawed being, corrupt in his power. The church of Lyra's world is also an oppressive force, corrupt and fearful.
If anything, I would say the books (not so much the movie, as the movie does not go into detail about the nature of dust) are quite spiritual.
The nature of Dust in the books is that it is a conscious particle. It could be seen as a physical incarnation of spirit, just as the daemons are a physical incarnation of the soul. The books in fact promote the concept of three parts to a person- body, mind, and soul.
When you read the books, you'll quickly realize that the church and the god presented in the story are very unlike that of reality.
The "Authority" in the books is an oppressive, flawed being, corrupt in his power. The church of Lyra's world is also an oppressive force, corrupt and fearful.
If anything, I would say the books (not so much the movie, as the movie does not go into detail about the nature of dust) are quite spiritual.
The nature of Dust in the books is that it is a conscious particle. It could be seen as a physical incarnation of spirit, just as the daemons are a physical incarnation of the soul. The books in fact promote the concept of three parts to a person- body, mind, and soul.
To paraphrase the write-up . . . "The writer of Golden Compass wants to undermine Christianity. The Director wants to produce the next movies to help the writer undermine Christianity, but only if the 1st movie does well. So, Christians, go ahead and send your kids to see it and send these God hating pagans your money. But, don't worry, because God is strong!"
The message should be, don't send dollars to pagans who hate God, that they will use to attack God by sending your kids to hell! Don't send your kids to movies made by God hating pagans, unless you want more movies from God hating pagans!
God is strong & he is omnicient. That's why he foretold that the anti-Christ & the Beast will take over the world. This is how they will do it. Because Christians will stand by and let them & in fact support them financially.
If you let your kids see this, then don't complain about bad movies ever again!