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gcbucks123
1/23/2008 12:09 AM
In reading the comments on The Pirates movie, I couldn't help but wonder what the creator of Veggie Tales intended... I hopped on to his site and found some good answers...
http://www.philvischer.com/?p=88
With all of the "unbiblical worldview" portrayed out there, it was a blessing to be able to take my kids to this movie and explain to them the truths of our faith after the show was over. As far as the "brother thing," i think they just needed a logical successor to the crown after the children - and in the human world, an uncle would be it. Phil's site talks alot about parables and great Christian authors of the past who have written in similar ways (CS Lewis, for example.) I hope this sheds some light!
http://www.philvischer.com/?p=88
With all of the "unbiblical worldview" portrayed out there, it was a blessing to be able to take my kids to this movie and explain to them the truths of our faith after the show was over. As far as the "brother thing," i think they just needed a logical successor to the crown after the children - and in the human world, an uncle would be it. Phil's site talks alot about parables and great Christian authors of the past who have written in similar ways (CS Lewis, for example.) I hope this sheds some light!
mellifluous
1/15/2008 5:02 PM
Having already seen The Pirates Who Don't Do Anything, I was interested to see the Crosswalk review. I was disappointed that the author did not list voices and characters correctly. Anyone who knows VeggieTales knows that Mike has voiced Larry since the beginning and that doesn't change since he is known as Elliot in the movie. There were other errors in character/voice. See http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0475998/ for a correct listing.
On the official movie website http://www.veggiepirates.com, Phil states that this is a parable. Because it is not a full allegory, the relationship between the King and the pirate didn't bother me too much--it just seems like a plot device to explain the pirate's motives. Later, when someone sinks in the sea and no one tries to save him, I was bothered at first, but then I realized again...this is a parable. In real life we would want to save even the enemy, but in a parable that doesn't make sense. Jesus used parables...why not Phil and Co?
On the official movie website http://www.veggiepirates.com, Phil states that this is a parable. Because it is not a full allegory, the relationship between the King and the pirate didn't bother me too much--it just seems like a plot device to explain the pirate's motives. Later, when someone sinks in the sea and no one tries to save him, I was bothered at first, but then I realized again...this is a parable. In real life we would want to save even the enemy, but in a parable that doesn't make sense. Jesus used parables...why not Phil and Co?
derekthered
1/15/2008 2:21 PM
My wife and I also picked up on that aspect of the movie. In fact, there is NO "Jesus" figure in the movie-- the prince is not depicted as anything more than just a person, plus he has a sister....
What is the "Helpseeker?"
Is there a "Holy Spirit?"
My 9 yo daughter liked the movie, but also had some questions about it.
My wife and I discussed this movie and Veggietales francise at length and realized that there has never been a Jesus figure to our recollection. We have ALL of the dvds, and most stories were retold old testament stories--none from the new testament!
Is this to appeal to a wider audience?
Frankly, we were disappointed in the theological flaws in this new movie. The pirate Robert could have easily been a disgruntled knight or something other than the king's (God's) own brother!
What is the "Helpseeker?"
Is there a "Holy Spirit?"
My 9 yo daughter liked the movie, but also had some questions about it.
My wife and I discussed this movie and Veggietales francise at length and realized that there has never been a Jesus figure to our recollection. We have ALL of the dvds, and most stories were retold old testament stories--none from the new testament!
Is this to appeal to a wider audience?
Frankly, we were disappointed in the theological flaws in this new movie. The pirate Robert could have easily been a disgruntled knight or something other than the king's (God's) own brother!
rdcrump
1/14/2008 8:03 PM
My wife and I got a group together to see the new Veggie Tales movie. In an otherwise very entertaining and fun movie experiecne, there is one thing in the movie that was disturbing to me -- I do not know if anyone else picked up on it or not. Maybe I am "over analyzing," but here goes . . . When the "Father" returns to rescue the children, the villainous "Uncle" calls him "Brother." If the Father returning is a reference to the imminent return of Christ, and the Uncle is the exiled Satan, that would make Jesus and Satan brothers. That idea bothers me. I suppose the children watching the movie would never catch that, but am I the only adult bothered by this? Or am I making something out of nothing?
God bless!