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Randal
10/29/2008 10:14 AM
Excellent point Ehturner. The entire program which God initiated in Genesis and runs through to Revelations is basis on Faith. God has chosen not to roll back the curtain and say peekaboo, he has chosen not to allow us to arrive at the conclusion that He exists based on scientific or rational evidence and thought. The Apostle Paul takes us very carefully through the priciple and steps of faith. Paul stated that Abraham believed (faith)God and it was counted as righteousness for him.The true Israel of God are those who are born of the free woman (Sarah)and are of Issac the child of promise, who was conceived of faith. Paul also declares that "all that is not faith is sin".Without faith it is impossible to please God.Those who come to Him must believe that He Is (faith)and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him (faith).I don't know about you but I'm seeing a pattern here.
ghturner
10/29/2008 2:08 AM
Typo in the previous post. Last sentence should be 'their', not 'there'. Anyway, at the end of the day, the question of where we came from requires an equal amount of faith from both sides. An atheistic belief requires a universe that came to existance from either nothing or a multiverse, yet unproven, both requiring faith. Creationists believe in an omnipotent creator, requiring faith. Just a note to Richard Dawkins (I doubt he is reading this), John Polkinghorne (one of the interview-ees in the film) answered his last question. Polkinghorne makes the observation that God can't reveal himself explicitly through nature, as we have the free will to choose him or not, and if there were explicit scientific evidence, then the scientist would, by nature of vocation, be obligated to become a believer in God, whether or not the belief developed into a relationship. The God of the Bible does not force his way into our lives. He lets us live and choose him if we desire.
ghturner
10/29/2008 1:53 AM
While I don't endorse stereotyping Darwinists as Nazis, there was in fact a direct correlation between Darwin's theory and Hitler's interpretation of the value of human life, or the lack thereof. In fact Darwin's theory had almost immediate impact as it was not long after publication that even states here in the U.S. started passing legislation on sterilization of certain groups of people (i.e., the mentally handicapped) of which Indiana, was the first. I am a physics major in college (Ball State) and viewed the film the week it came out. I certainly recognize the propaganda-ish style of the film, but after all, that was the point. I think the film overall serves the purpose of advocating the stopping of persecution of those who believe in I.D. What most atheists either don't realize or refuse to admit is that, at the basic level, when one gets past all the scientific jargon, the question of where did we come from takes just as much faith from there point of view as ours.
Randal
10/28/2008 6:26 PM
Two thumbs up for Balane and Mcdozer and their feedback, and a two thumbs down on this movie review.With regards to Mcdozers observation that many movies recommended by Crosswalk reviewers are horrendous, I agree fully.It is clear by much of the content on Crosswalk in general that the Spirit of the age has pretty well fully overcome the church in North America. It is almost impossible to find anything even remotely similar to the doctrine of the early church being propagated on Crosswalk.It is tuly very sad.We forget the plea made in the book of revelations "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.Rev 18:4-5)Regarding Mr. Stien's fine film the connection of Evolution (Evilution)to Eugenics and Nazism is inescapable .Judge the tree by the fruit.It is clear from this film that Evolution=Atheism
bobxxxx
10/21/2008 11:09 AM
Intelligent design is nothing more than a childish idiotic belief in magic. Only uneducated Christian hicks believe in it. Biologists laugh at it.

Any science teacher who prefers the breathtaking stupidity of intelligent design magic instead of science should be ridiculed, fired, and never allowed to teach anything anywhere ever again. It's not fair to students to be stuck with a intelligent-design-creationist teacher.
balane
5/15/2008 10:07 PM
Unfortunately, The writer of this film review fails to connect the dots when it comes to an athiestic/evolutionary world-view, and it's logical outworkings; which is what Ben Stein morbidly reminds us. This is not a misstep, but a rather intentional provocation of the conscience of man to awaken to the logical consistency of such a world-view. In other words, atheists and evolutionists alike have no where to run in defending an objective moral standard because of their world-view. Therefore, objective and intrinsic value of human beings becomes subjective, and determined by whoever holds the greatest power. The Nazis followed this thinking to the very end of its natural conclusion.
Ben Stein does well to remind, or even educate, the viewer that there is more to the ID/Evolutionary debate than just origins.

For Ben's method, he only uses what is expected to get a clear answer to simple questions. Sadly, the atheists only resort to: "We believe this started life." Hmmm. Faith?
mcdozer
5/7/2008 5:02 PM
The best part about this article are the latest 2 comments. I truly appreciate that readers & members leave their own opinions here, which can sometimes vary greatly from the reviewers', who seem to be trying to make a not too graceful effort at bending over backwards to please everybody and be "politically correct," so unlike Jesus & His early & true disciples.
Some of the movies I've watched, following Crosswalks' recommendation turned out to have been devastating bummers, and I couldn't believe that anyone calling themselves a Christian could actually recommend films like "There Will Be Blood" or "Pan's Labyrinth," and at the same time render this correctly termed lukewarm review of an effort to bring back what Christians considered truth and Word of God for centuries.
ddheino
4/28/2008 2:20 PM
We finally get a movie that may explain why our society is going completely against God and His Word, and we get a ho-hum review in a Christian website. AS a former high school math teacher, I could see the direction our educational system was going, and was completely powerless to say or do anything to stop it. One student could complain that I mentioned the historical Jesus in a discussion, and I would be reprimanded by the principal. He would say, "Yeah, I believe like you do, but we just can't talk about that in class." The so-called "separation of church and state" is not in the constitution, it is an interpretation of the constitution. Congress shall make no law establishing religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. They took it for granted that we are believers in a Creator. How we worship our Creator is up to us -- they weren't going to say we had to be Baptist or Catholic. What's happened in our schools is the exact opposite of their intention.
IITim3v7
4/26/2008 2:11 PM
"Expelled" is well worth your time. You'd never know it from this lukewarm, somewhat grudging review. Aside from the title and last half line, the review misfires.
So this is an "old school" topic that doesn't get glowing endorsements from the mainstream media? Gee, with that kind of analysis, no wonder evangelicals are portrayed as anti-intellectual. The links between Darwinism and Nazism/abortion/euthanasia/eugenics are inescapable, yet when a movie has the courage to tackle them head-on, it is not in the "best light" (guess we should soft-pedal that bit of truth). Part of the problem is the many who consider themselves Christians have embraced the lie that one can be both Darwinian and Christian.
The movie reminds us that you can't, that there is compelling evidence of a Creator that the neo-Darwinian establishment fears, that a worldview built on flimsy foundation doesn't get more stable w/ time, and that foolishness in fancy intellectual trappings is still foolishness (Ps. 14:1).
mzeema2
4/26/2008 2:08 AM
Ben Stein made a big deal about those professors getting fired for mentioning the idea of intelligent design as a theory for existence or other unsolved mysteries. I don't blame the universities, the groundwork for science is theory based ideas that are emperically testable. To offer ID as an alternative for something they can't explain is an easy way to escape what science is meant for. There should be a seperation between church and state but I pray that our leaders are influenced by their Christian values. This goes for the scientific community as well. On a different note, the Nazi ideology influenced by darwinism is a scary wakeup call to people choosing the sex of their babies and the possibility of genetically altering their babies.
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