This article shows the sad but true state of the Church. Catholic or Protestant? Both are the same. The Catholics depend upon the traditions of the fathers of the Roman Catholic Church, where as the Protestants depend upon the traditions of the 'reformers' like Calvin and Luther.

Both are wrong-headed.

Instead of trying to get people to go back to their 'Catholic or Protestant roots', we should be calling them back to the true faith! The Apostolic Christianity forged by the Disciples of the Lord!

The tightly-wound authority, worship, and grounding in tradition of today's church is ridiculous!

The writer of this article needs to reread his history of the Reformation. Calvin and Luther were far more Catholic than he could ever imagine.

Both Calvin and Luther referred to the Lord's Supper and Baptism as Sacraments. Both Calvin and Luther practiced baby baptism. Luther believed in the Real Presence in the Eucharist. Luther believed in Confession and Calvin in public confession of sins. Both Calvin and Luther accepted the Catholic baptisms of their congregants and did not insist upon them being re-baptized. Both Calvin and Luther acknowledged that the people heard the Scriptures preached within the Roman Catholic Church. Both Calvin and Luther believed in the early creeds and recited them during worship. Both Calvin and Luther practiced liturgical worship.

If Calvin and Luther came back today they would be very surprised to discover that the Evangelical Protestant Churches indeed look nothing like their own, and why? They have strayed from their Catholicity.

"Jdg 3:6 And they took their daughters to be their wives, and gave their daughters to their sons; and they served their gods." To realize that the Nation of Israel, in a matter of one generation, turned their backs on the Lord immediately after entering the Promised Land, why would we expect anything different today. There really is nothing new under the sun. That includes Christians turning thier backs in only a couple of generations. It's not a matter to be surprised with; for us it needs to be a matter of proclamation and discipling. Lets keep that in the forefront and let the Lord God lead the way for transformation. (:>)

Sadly this article is all too true. Complete apathy is our biggest problem. I like Jesus' pointed question. When the Son returns will He find faith on the earth?