Michael Card is a well-known name in Christian circles. As a singer, songwriter and author, Michael has taken the Scriptures and brought them to life with his many recordings and books for children and adults.

Last week I was driving through the back roads of our area with a carload of children in rainy, dramatic weather. Life had been extremely busy and demanding, and I realized I needed some eternal perspective. Fortunately I had Michael's recording on the book of Revelation, Unveiled Hope, in the car. As we drove along, we sang at the top of our lungs of the glorious revelation of our Lord. It was a brief taste of heaven. That is what I think Michael Card is able to accomplish. I am not left thinking, "Ooh, he is so cool." Instead, my eyes are on the Lord, and often I receive a new view of things eternal.

Susan Card wrote an encouraging book on home education, The Homeschool Journey, back in 1997. Since reading that book five years ago, I have wished for a chance to talk with her about the stories in her homeschool life. I was able to visit with Michael and Susan this fall and briefly explore some ideas that I have heard for years from their writing and Michael's concerts.

At the heart of what we discussed were ideas like having a lifestyle of listening, of sharing our lives in community, and making the Lord the center of all we do. Rather than having all the answers, they talked as fellow sojourners who could appreciate the struggle.

If Michael's music is unknown to you, run (do not walk) to wherever you can find quality Christian music. You can start in the book of Genesis and listen your way through the Scriptures. You will hear hints of Irish music, gospel choirs, and plenty of thought-provoking lyrics to spur you on in your life as a believer in Jesus Christ.

It was my pleasure to chat with both Michael and Susan on the phone one wintry morning a few months back. I want to share our enjoyable conversation with you.

Q: Michael, you talk about the value of community when you are in concert and in your video, Scribbling in the Sand. Community can be pretty elusive for busy homeschooling families. It is hard to disappoint people and to make time for all the things called "important."

Michael Card (MC): It is a constant struggle. Obviously the video is going to show the shiny side. Susan has a small community. There are maybe three other moms that she has homeschooled with for going on 10 years, and they tend to give each other a lot space and cut each other a lot of slack. But the larger community doesn't understand.

Susan Card (SC): Oh, I agree. Whether it is a school or the church, everybody has got an agenda, and if you don't plug into the agenda then you don't look like you are making a contribution. It makes the family look selfish. We are in the same struggle. You can try to do everything. For me it was trying to pour into our ministry. But if you keep trying to keep up with it, you end up burning your wick at both ends and run out of energy. You get confused and you just break down. There are a lot of moms in that boat because nobody is telling them, "You don't have to do everything. You are doing enough. This is your ministry for this season in your life." We are not only fighting the education system; there is a whole spiritual void because so many churches are about maintaining an institution and not taking care of individuals. So because we are becoming aware of it, we are all starting to try to pull away and go about life in a different way.

MC: Of course, I talk a lot about community when I am on the road. People will ask me, "How do you do this? How do you have community?" Well, you ask God for it!