Notice that? How many persons did Jesus teach as being the Only True God? 1, 3, or 56? AND he preferenced it with what you need to know in ORDER TO BE SAVED, BE A CHRISTIAN, GAIN EVERLASTINGF LIFE!!
Need another witness? How bout Paul whom stated: 1Cor. 8:6 "yet to us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we unto him;"
One God, One person. Simple huh? Jesus and Paul WERE JEWS! Jews ALWAYS denied Trinity. Trinity goes AGAINST the Shema of Deut 6:4, as it teaches "Jehovah our God is 3 who are one!"
Jehovah folks, is the God OF Jesus Micah 5:4; Rev. 3:12. Trinity is HERESY and AGAINST the teaching of the Christ. Jesus NEVER EVER TAUGHT ONE GOD 3 PERSONS. Period.
Again, Jesus to Trintarians is not GOD, but a person OF a Triune God.
Question: Please show us ONE SINGLE VERSE that STATES Jesus is a PERSON OF a Triune God, or Jesus is a Person OF GOd! Show us from the grammer of the Greek that the word God (theos) means a person OF god)
"..so that they may be one as we are one.".."that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you." .."I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one."
Notice how in Vs 17:22, Jesus gives the GLORY he received from his Father to the disciples.. .Are they God too now? If Jesus WAS GOd, and God shares his Glory with no one.. how can Jesus share his Glory with the disciples?
I can do this all day. The rest of Hanks points are meaningless and do not help the trinitarian cause.
Remember, Jesus is NOT: "All that God is" according the Trintiarians. Their God is a total of 3 persons, one God, not ONE PERSON, ONE GOD! Yet this is EXACTLY whom Jesus depicted as being the ONE GOD, ONE PERSON, The Father at John 17:3?
"Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, (the FATHER, 'PATER' of vs 1) the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent."
Then Hank stated: To the Jews this was the epitome of blasphemy, for they knew that in doing so Jesus was clearly claiming to be God. On yet another occasion, Jesus explicitly told the Jews: "'I and the Father are one.' Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, 'I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?' 'We are not stoning you for any of these,' replied the Jews, 'but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God'" (John 10:30-33).
Again Hank, the Jews were WRONG! They we ALWAYS WRONG! a: Paul stated he and Appollos were one at 1Cor 3:8 (1 Corinthians 3:8) "Now he that plants and he that waters are one, but each [person] will receive his own reward according to his own labor."
Are they ONE GOD? Or one being?
b: Jesus stated the Disciples would be one JUST AS (grk 'KATHOS,' meaning: in the same way, in like manner) He and his father were one 3 times in John 17:11,22,23.
Yet Hank continues: In John 8:58 Jesus went so far as to use the very words by which God revealed Himself to Moses from the burning bush (Exodus 3:14).
This shows the repetition of a deception. a: Jesus spoke Arabaic, not GREEK b: The GREEK of JOhn 8:58 is NOT the Same as the GREEK in the LXX at Ex. 3:14 (Jesus said "ego eimi," the LXX reads: "ego eimi hon" then again, "ho on") c: The Hebrew of Ex 3:14 does not READ I am "THE" I AM (but rather EYHEH ASHER EYHEH, FUTURE TENSE, I WILL BE or SHALL PROVE TO BE, compare Ex 3:12 where EYHEH is rendered I WILL BE or I shall prove to be) d: Jesus was NOT answering WHOM he WAS in vs 58, as that question wa asked of him in vs 56. Jesus was answering a question of AGE, and the FACT that he pre existed Abraham. (as did the angels) e: There is no "I AM" in stripture, God's personal name is YHWH, or JeHoVaH.(Psalms 83:18;Isa. 42:8)
For those sceptics out there, do a word study on the points above.
namely God!(Acts 2:36) Therefore let all the house of Israel know for a certainty that God made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom YOU impaled.”
Hank then said: As a result, the Jewish leaders tried to kill Him because in "calling God his own Father, [Jesus was] making himself equal with God" (John 5:18 NIV).
How did we get from Jesus account with the disciples to John 5:18? Hank writes like it is one long account!
The Jews ALSO accused him of BREAKING the SABBATH at John 5:18! Were these ones Jesus declared as being white washed Graves, Satanic, and liars correct?(Matt 23:27;John 6:44;Matt 23:28) Jesus did NOT claim to be equal witrh God as he rebuked them in vs 19 by stating:
“Most truly I say to YOU, The Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he beholds the Father doing."
Jesus claimed to be SUBORDINATE to the Father, not being EQUAL TO HIM!!
If you are the Son of the Plumber, you are not the plumber. If you are the Son of God you are not God! You are his KID, his offspring! YOu have a DADDY, a LIFE GIVER! Jesus is to be confessed as the SOn of God according to 1John 4:15 READ IT PEOPLE! (1 John 4:15) Whoever makes the confession that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, God remains in union with such one and he in union with God.
If you are the Son of a FATHER, you are the offspring of that one! Unless trinitarianism is based on words not meaning what they mean?(2 John 3) "There will be with us undeserved kindness, mercy [and] peace from God the Father and from Jesus Christ the Son of the Father, with truth and love."
What other stuff did Hank tell us? First, Jesus claimed to be the unique Son of God.
Actually other than the claim by some that he was the CHRIST, That was ALL he was stated to be by the disciples.. the SON OF GOD! And how did he become the Christ? The same was he was MADE Lord! By someone else!
When Jesus came to Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples the mother of all questions, "Who do you say I am?" (Matthew 16:15; Mark 8:29; Luke 9:20)...... Jesus, however, answered by claiming that He was God.
Hank, like all trinitarians, love to STRETCH the Truth. Did Jesus CLAIM, to be "God" when he asked the disciples whom he was? Lets look at the verses shall we?
(Matt. 16:15) He said to them: “YOU, though, who do YOU say I am?” 16 In answer Simon Peter said: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God. (Mark 8:29) And he put the question to them: “YOU, though, who do YOU say I am?” In answer Peter said to him: “You are the Christ.” (Luke 9:20) Then he said to them: “YOU, though, who do YOU say I am?” Peter said in reply: “The Christ of God.”
Where do we find a claim that the disciples SAID he was God? If you are the Son of someone, you are not the someone you are the son of. If you are the Son of the President, you are NOT the President (go to part 2)
I AM SORRY, I AM A FIRST TIME USER, AND I SHOULD NOT HAVE WRITTEN SO MUCH, ESPECIALLY THE WAY I DID. of my moods and give me comfort and play as I need each. I have wonderful friends that care for me and that have read this long article! I am blessed. It has changed a lot
from the time when I thought only angels such as Aunt Jen, Grandma, and Aunt Anner Mae gave me food, a place to sleep where I felt safe and loved. They actually hugged me and told me that they loved me. I am forever grateful to these three women. These people and the friendships from so long ago that continue even now feel blessed to me. And the friends that I have only known for a short time, the friends that are here for me now...they give me comfort and support as I need it. They also give me laughs when I need them too. Thank you to all my friends and family. God bless all of you!
So, again, back to the subject, I used to want to be a lady, now I want to be a peaceful Christian woman.
the impact people and time have made on the environment, in the way we eat and take care of ourselves. I do not want to believe that the Old Testament law still exists that because of my ancestors that I will be punished for their sins or even my sins from yesterday or from the first sin I committed. I believe that God sent his son to us; so that we can confess our sins and ask forgiveness and that we will receive it. I believe that Jesus Christ has saved us and that we now can go to heaven when it is our time.
I have many wonderful blessings in my life. I am now married to a wonderful man who loves me. I have two wonderful sons who are making a great life for themselves. And as of this morning my husband and son talked to each other and worked through much of their anger issues with each other and life. They have agreed to talk to each other and work out their problems with each other. I have such great animals that give love and attention each day; they notice each of my
Sorry I had to post this backwards, but please read thru it carefully.
Thanks for taking the time to read this. If you wish me to continue to address the rest of Hanks points, please tell me, and I will.
Thanks, btrbebv