Grunge Christianity and Cussing Pastors? What Next?

Grunge Christianity and Cussing Pastors? What Next?

John MacArthur

Grace to You

We keep hearing from evangelical strategists and savvy church leaders that Christians need to be more tuned into contemporary culture.

You have no doubt heard the arguments: We need to take the message out of the bottle. We can’t minister effectively if don’t speak the language of contemporary counterculture. If we don’t vernacularize the gospel, contextualize the church, and reimagine Christanity for each succeeding generation, how can we possibly reach young people? Above all else, we have got to stay in step with the times.

Those arguments have been stressed to the point that many evangelicals now seem to think unstylishness is just about the worst imaginable threat to the expansion of the gospel and the influence of the church. They don’t really care if they are worldly. They just don’t want to be thought uncool.

That way of thinking has been around at least since modernism began its aggressive assault on biblical Christianity in the Victorian era. For half a century or more, most evangelicals resisted the pragmatic thrust of the modernist argument, believing it was a fundamentally worldly philosophy. They had enough biblical understanding to realize that “friendship with the world is enmity with God. Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God” (James 4:4).

But the mainstream evangelical movement gave up the battle against worldliness half a century ago, and then completely capitulated to pragmatism just a couple of decades ago. After all, most of the best-known megachurches that rose to prominence after 1985 were built on a pragmatic philosophy of giving “unchurched” people whatever it takes to make them feel comfortable. Why would anyone criticize what “works”?

Whole churches have thus deliberately immersed themselves in “the culture”—by which they actually mean “whatever the world loves at the moment.” We now have a new breed of trendy churches whose preachers can rattle off references to every popular icon, every trifling meme, every tasteless fashion, and every vapid trend that captures the fickle fancy of the postmodern secular mind.

Worldly preachers seem to go out of their way to put their carnal expertise on display—even in their sermons. In the name of connecting with “the culture” they want their people to know they have seen all the latest programs on MTV; familiarized themselves with all the key themes of “South Park”; learned the lyrics to countless tracks of gangsta rap and heavy metal music; and watched who-knows-how-many R-rated movies. They seem to know every fad top to bottom, back to front, and inside out. They’ve adopted both the style and the language of the world—including lavish use of language that used to be deemed inappropriate in polite society, much less in the pulpit. They want to fit right in with the world, and they seem to be making themselves quite comfortable there.

Mark Driscoll is one of the best-known representatives of that kind of thinking. He is a very effective communicator—a bright, witty, clever, funny, insightful, crude, profane, deliberately shocking, in-your-face kind of guy. His soteriology is exactly right, but that only makes his infatuation with the vulgar aspects of contemporary society more disturbing.

Driscoll ministers in Seattle, birthplace of “grunge” music and heart of the ever-changing subculture associated with that movement. Driscoll’s unique style and idiom might aptly be labeled “post-grunge.” His language—even in his sermons—is deliberately crude. He is so well known for using profane language that in Blue Like Jazz (p. 133), Donald Miller (popular author and icon of the “Emerging Church” movement, who speaks of Driscoll with the utmost admiration) nicknamed him “Mark the Cussing Pastor.”

I don’t know what Driscoll’s language is like in private conversation, but I listened to several of his sermons. To be fair, he didn’t use the sort of four-letter expletives most people think of as cuss words—nothing that might get bleeped on broadcast television these days. Still, it would certainly be accurate to describe both his vocabulary and his subject matter at times as tasteless, indecent, crude, and utterly inappropriate for a minister of Christ. In every message I listened to, at least once he veered into territory that ought to be clearly marked off limits for the pulpit.

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alathrop
5/30/2007 5:31 PM
I actually attend Mars Hill church in Seattle. You don't really know what you're talking about. Perhaps you listened to Mark's sermons to hear the "bad" words, not to hear his message. That's kind of like reading through the Bible and searching for passages to support your point. You take him out of context. In the 6 months I've been going to Mars Hill I have heard him say the word "crap" once. And nothing worse. Mark wants only for us to love Jesus, love each other and spread the good news. Maybe he can be a bit crude, as you say, (I have never heard it myself), but his message and the love he imparts, far out weigh some unwise word choices.
leviwalker
3/21/2007 12:40 PM
I must kindly disagree with this article on this guy. This guy aparantly knows very little about the world and hasn't come from it. and if he did, he definitely wasn't "cool" or "hip" so i probably would have never spoken to him anyway. Just kidding.

His use of some of the terminology, blatant finger pointing, and use of what I like to call "secluded scripture used to accuse" was a real turn off and showed me that, the same as Driscoll, he is a flawed man who needs the love of Jesus in his life. (just like the rest of us).

when, oh when, will Christians stop the finger pointing in order to make themselves look more righteous?

When, oh when, will someone in the media in the United States actually write an article that is not biased? or at least states both sides to a story with out it being so obvious that he can't stand the way this guy does ministry.

I'm very very sorry that this is what the world sees in us...
dekster
3/20/2007 3:00 PM
"Grunge Christianity." It seems that John MacArthur truly is NOT "hip" or "cool" since the term "grunge" is only used by people over 50 to describe a certain generation.

Views like MacArhtur's would force one to become a conservative WASP in a suit and tie before they could be considered Christian.

I find it frustrating and ignorant when "pop theologians" like MacArthur fit "worldliness" and "holiness" into a box that basically means you must walk, talk and act like we do. It's a form of legalism that was prevalent in Paul's time and very much one that we face today. The language that MacArthur finds "vulgar" is often NOT seen as vulgar by a different generation. Some of the terms that _my_ generation heard growing up might sound offensive to the over 60 crowd but are a regular part of the language. I see Driscoll as using language to which his crowd is familiar.

MacArthur should also know that even the Apostle Paul used "bad" language.
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