Crosswalk.com: In the aftermath of the events in Iraq, it seems this should be a pivotal time for the Body. What can the Church do to take advantage of the current climate?

Chuck Colson: The biggest thing that has happened is that there has been a change in the utopian mindset of the '90s. In the '90s, people thought, "Just put money in your 401K and you'll be fabulously rich." There was that incredible book by Francis Fukuyama, The End of History - "Everybody assumed no more wars, no more battles. Western liberal democracy had won the day." I think what happened with 9-11 is that complacency was shattered and everyone came back to reality. President Bush's talk about good and evil has registered with people.

The fundamental worldview of American people that was so prevalent in the '90s has been badly shaken, which means they are thinking about very basic questions. This is a wonderful time to be able to, not only present the gospel, but to present the case for the Christian faith in culture.  My basic argument in this book is that you can't do that as lone rangers. We have to do it operating as the body. The church has to be the church before we can make any impact on culture.

Crosswalk.com: It seems that the issue of war is particularly divisive among members of the Body. Is there room for disagreement on this issue?

Chuck Colson:  Oh yes. There has been disagreement about war since the beginning of time. There has always been a dividing line in the church because the Anabaptist tradition, which is a very respectable tradition in the Christian church, does not favor the use of force. Christian passivism has had some very respectable adherents. I happen to think it's wrong and I personally believe in the just war tradition and I believe this was an application of it. But I fully respect that some do not. C.S. Lewis was marvelous writing about passivists. You can only afford to be one if you can't persuade everybody else you are right.