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I'm among the flock whose trying to make a splash out there.

J:  Yes.  [Inaudible]

F:  We still have so much growing up to do.  Our philosophy is we want to achieve a general marketability and whatever that takes and I don't think we have to compromise our message to do that, but we've got to have good stories and we've got to get away from schmaltz, and what we kind of call the Sunday school paper mentality.  "Johnny learns to read his Bible," or something like that, so we're going to grow...

J:  You are obviously a wonderful story teller.  Has that always been part of your personality or did that kind of grow into or did you always know that you wanted to write?

F:  I think I knew it.  It took me a while to get that really settled.  Cause I tried a lot of other things.

J:  Yeah, cause I was reading in your bio that you'd done a number of things.

F:  I'd tell stories to the kids.  I'd do comics when I was a kid.  I wrote all kinds of stories, but it takes you a while to sort of figure out what you want to do.  I was going to be a musician among other things, but I never felt peace until I was writing, so I finally settled on it and stuck with it.