I should also point out three interesting points:

1. When visiting Athens Paul said nothing of their homosexuality while preaching to them about The unknown god.

2. Contrary to popular misinterpreation of the Bible Sodom & the surrounding areas were not destroyed due to homosexuality.
Ezekiel 16:49 "Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant overfed & unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty & did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen"
For those who respond with "homosexuality is detestable things" might I point out even if this is what is intended isn't it interesting homosexuality is NOT mentioned by name but the two major sins within the church are? unconcerned & overfed!

3. Paul mentions in Romans 8-10 "If God made us this way, why are we still responsible?" His response: "What business is that of your's?" Ie, Yes, we are still responsible.
Tim

Here's the response I wrote to the discussion that linked me here:

Scripturally, there is more evidence to support people are born gay, than not.
Logically, there is more evidence to support people are born gay, than not.
Scientifically, there is more evidence to support people are born gay, than not.

Scripturally: We are told we have a sin nature. However, we are not told how that sin nature is manifested. Some are bent on being gay; some are bent towards violence. But, if we are born with a sin nature, then, it would stand to reason, we are born certain ways.

Logically: Are only gay people the only ones to choose their sexual desires?
We've heard it said, "You can't help who we fall in love with". Except gays?
Did we choose to be straight? Then how do we then say, they chose to be gay?

Scientifically: There is indeed evidence that supports the idea of a "gay" gene. Interestingly, in the 80's they discovered that there is a "murderous" or "violent" gene.

This may be of interest too. Initially, when scientists discovered the "gay gene" the gay community was up in arms. They were angry, thinking it insulting to say they had no choice in the matter.
However, as it became clear that they are born gay, the Christian community has been the ones outraged, and the gay community has embraced it. Oddly, rather than be biblical, the christian community refuses to accept reality, as does the gay community.
Scriptural evidence we SHOULD be using: "If anyone would follow me, they should deny themselves and take up their cross daily".
So, the argument should NEVER be, "Are they born gay?" But, rather, like every sinner, "Are you willing to follow Christ, by denying who you and your sin nature are?"

Tim

Very well written. The nature/nurture debate will likely go on forever. If living a gay lifestyle is an abomination to the God who created us, then claiming that God made an individual this way means that God is very cruel indeed. However, it is a good point that we are each born with a sin nature, and we each may have slightly different temptations to deal with. I can't imagine an alcoholic or a pedophile claiming that God made me this way - therefore I am not responsible for my actions or my lifestyle.

Error number 5, in which the author says: "God may allow such things, but that is theological miles from saying that God wanted them." Makes me scratch my head...I had not thought about this! It now raises the obvious question of: is God also subject to what we mortals know as "the law of unintended consequences"? I'll have to ponder that one! My bias is to think God knows all possible outcomes, and our free will is the variable....much as God knows the seed grows in receptive soil and conditions, but some "chance" occurs when the wind blows the seed to some particular spot (though clearly not of the seed's choice). Thought provoking article, thanks!

Thank you for this article. I am happy to see someone discuss this situation without having to spend all the time on whether homosexuality is biologically predisposed or not. Although I am very sympathetic towards Christians who are gay, I do not think the fact that for some people it is biologically predisposed or not is the main issue. Thank you for your thoughts.

Your error points were very good. I agree with them all, because I have a brother that claims he was born gay. I just wish you could have backed it up with scripture. There is so much that the Bible has to say about. Guess I was looking for the easy way out and not have to study so hard.

Thanks for a staring point.

Makes sense to me! My unsaved relatives always side with the retorick of "this world". They want to feel compansionate for "those" people, thus they tend to vote with their feelings when legislation comes on the ballot. If Christianity is what defines us, or what we've chosen to be our guide through this life, then we too must feel compassion toward those who are oppressed by the enemy. Jesus would have never rejected them, He would have loved them to life. I totally agree with this article and pray that more people would also. It is the scales on their eyes that need to drop off, and hopefully they'll drop off before they do!